David Hehman—Creation Crate

[00:01] Justin Baeder:

Welcome to Principal Center Radio, bringing you the best in professional practice.

[00:06] Announcer:

Here's your host, director of the Principal Center and champion of high performance instructional leadership, Justin Baeder. Welcome everyone to Principal Center Radio.

[00:15] David Hehman:

I'm your host, Justin Baeder, and I'm honored to be joined today by David Heeman. David is the STEM engineering teacher at Phoenix City Intermediate School, and he's the co-founder of Creation Crate, where he oversees project and curriculum development.

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And now, our feature presentation.

[00:32] David Hehman:

David, welcome to Principal Center Radio. Thank you, Justin. I'm excited to have the opportunity to talk about makerspaces and programming and STEM and all the cool projects that we know we could be doing in our schools. So just catch us up a little bit. What is Creation Crate and what are you doing in your classroom to get kids into STEM projects and those kinds of hands-on electronics and engineering projects that I've been hearing about?

[00:58] David Hehman:

Well, Justin, like you said, I am one of the co-founders. So I have two other partners, Chris Gotthamton, who actually started this whole thing in January of last year, and Ryan Aflito. And Chris started this as a subscription service. And so we send out a new project that teaches electronics and coding every month to our subscribers. I joined the team about seven months ago, and I'm helping create new projects. and also our 2.0 version of Creation Crate.

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And what we're doing is we are adding classroom kits to bring this into the classroom. In my classroom right now, we build mousetrap cars and glider planes. I teach them about engineering and physics and math. And also these projects we're starting to use so that we can teach electronics and coding. So that's basically where Creation Crate is at right now. We've got a lot of cool new features we could talk about also.

[01:53] David Hehman:

Yeah, well, let's talk about some of the projects because I've been keeping my eye on those projects through the Indiegogo campaign. And, you know, I think the subscription box is kind of something you're supposed to order for your kids, but I've been keeping an eye on it for myself as something that, hey, you know, that would be kind of fun because I grew up with those, you know, those electronic kits that have, you know, the one board and, you know, 200 wires of different lengths and the solar panel and the little speaker and the resistors and all the little things that you can hook together to make different projects. I got to dig those out of my parents' basement sometime and see what still works. But you guys do things like breadboards and Arduinos. And talk to me about some of the things that are included there, just in terms of the raw materials and then maybe some of the projects.

[02:36] David Hehman:

Yes. So for the electronics, it's everything from, like you mentioned, a breadboard, which is, for some of your listeners, it's an electronics prototyping board. So instead of having to solder or twist wires together, you plug them directly into the board. And then...

[02:50]

Everything from LEDs to a distance detector to a weather station. We make an optical theremin, audio visualizer. We have a memory game. You probably remember Simon, where you follow the little colored LEDs as they make noises, right? So the second project that you receive is the memory game. It's a lot of fun.

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And then the Arduino is something new that you and I wouldn't have had when we were younger. The Arduino is a board. It's called a microcontroller. And it allows you to hook up input sensors that read information from the world around you, whether it's you pressing a button or the temperature or light sensitivity or something like that, and then use code that you write to analyze that information and then tell it to do other things. So you can tell a robot to drive down the sidewalk and follow a line, or you can tell the mood lamp, which is the first project, when to change colors and how intense the light should be. The dice game lets you use some randomized numbers so you can digitally roll a dice.

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So there's a lot of different projects. It's really varied. And what we've done, different than a lot of box services where you just pick up wherever they're at at that time, when you start with Creation Crate, you start with the first project. And you learn something that you then take into the next project. So each project builds on what you've learned from the previous projects. You get more complicated code.

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You get new different electronics and sensors that you learn how they work and what they do. And pretty soon, you really have that box that you were talking about. Pretty soon, you have a box of all kinds of parts that you can make a lot of different things out of, not just the projects that we've put together. But a lot of our subscribers will turn them into all kinds of different things, and they're sharing that information. So we're creating a community of makers that are taking what we are providing and making it into something new and interesting as well.

[04:49] David Hehman:

I know you have experience creating that kind of community, both online and in your own classroom. Talk to me a little bit about the program that you teach in a middle school, you know, the curriculum and the makerspace that you've put together there.

[05:01] David Hehman:

It's really cool because I actually use a system called White Box Learning, and they do a lot of projects that they do with TSA. I'm sure probably a lot of your educators are familiar with the Technology Student Association. And my kids both are part of that. They build things like the CO2 racers, which is like, I guess, the modern version of the Pinewood Derby car. They do wind turbines. In my class, since we're sixth and seventh grade, it's kind of the introduction to all this.

[05:29]

And we build mousetrap cars and glider planes. And we do, we go through that curriculum. So everything that we do is tied to the standards that are being taught in their other classes. They are learning physics. They are learning mechanics. about simple machines, the history of aviation, how all these things work together.

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First, we have some material that we go through. They have some quizzes and worksheets that they do. And then we go into a design phase where they have a modified CAD system. So they go and design their car. So even though it's a kit, every single one of them is going to be different, which is great because it allows for so much creativity. And then by the end of the night week, they're building that project and we're outside flying planes and racing cars.

[06:14]

And Creation Crate, I'm kind of following that same model. We're just bringing that kind of model into electronics and coding. I see a lot of schools that do coding, they do Scratch and things like that, which is a great introduction into coding, but really you're dragging and dropping blocks. So it's good for some of the computer science theory, but not really for understanding the language-based programming. And Arduino uses C++, so it's a language that is universal. It's used all over.

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It's a skill that they can take with them no matter how old they are and into the jobs of the future. So it's kind of like a bridge from scratch into hardcore Internet of Things. which is where everything is going. So we're allowing people to get started in that area in a simple and fun way.

[07:02] David Hehman:

Well, let's talk about the Arduino microcontroller, because I know at kind of the heart of a lot of the projects or a lot of the different creative things kids could build with the materials, the Arduino is kind of the controller. Is that right?

[07:14] David Hehman:

That's right. The Arduino is the microcontroller. It was actually developed at a university in Italy, and they developed it just for what it's being used for now, which is teaching kids electronics and coding, and it just caught on like wildfire. I mean, you can go online, it's A-R-D-U-I-N-O, for those that might not be familiar, but if you type in Arduino, you will find hundreds and thousands of projects that people do with this. They turn them into robots, they turn them into smart homes, they can control your lights, they can control your temperature, you can talk to them through the internet. It's really, really cool.

[07:50]

So once you learn how to use it and you get familiar with the language, kind of the sky is the limit of what you can do with an Arduino.

[07:57] David Hehman:

Well, I love that it connects the coding that we want to teach kids to do to something that they can actually touch. It's not just like, here's a very basic video game that you made over the course of a semester that only runs on this one computer at school. It's a physical object that they're actually building to perform some particular function. It's a project that they're actually creating and programming all in a kind of integrated fashion.

[08:21] David Hehman:

You know, this is the key. So I asked Chris when I came on, I said, why did you start this? You know, he's got a marketing background. And he said, well, look, I was frustrated with education. I hated school. It was boring to me.

[08:34]

I felt like it was not preparing me for the real world. And I mean, these are his words and kind of how I feel. I'm in the education system. I know the limitations. I'm not trying to knock anybody who's in education. So I want to get that out of the way.

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But there are a lot of students that feel that way. I think sometimes they feel that way because they have different learning styles. So try to sit me down in front of a book and have me read it to cover to cover. It's not going to work. Give me, you know, audible and let me listen to it on a drive and it's going to sink in and I'm going to absorb so much more information. You know, I'm more of an oral learner and I'm a kinetic learner.

[09:12]

And so Creation Crate allows you to bring all of those different styles of learning, whether it's verbal or physical or logical or social or solitary, like there is a part of the project that you're doing that covers all those bases. In my classroom, I feel like I'm not really teaching engineering. Probably 80% of the kids could really care less about that. What I'm really teaching them is how to learn. Like Einstein said, that education is not the learning of facts, but the training of the mind to think. And if they just walk away knowing, you know what, I didn't know how to do something, I went through this little process and applied myself and now I know how to do it.

[09:54]

That may not be the thing that I like to do, but if I apply that process, then whatever I want to do is attainable for me. I can do those things. Our passion is taking everything that we have at our fingertips. There's so much that we have. Right now we're fundraising so that we can add augmented reality the tools that we have. So we have videos, we have online content, we have instruction manuals that we send out, we have Facebook Messenger tokens.

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So if you don't know what a resistor is and you see the little picture on this token that we send you, you can take a picture of it with Facebook Messenger and a video will pop up that tells you in a minute or a minute and a half what that component is, what it's used for, how it works, and then you can move right on. So whatever style of learning you are at, whatever pace you like to learn at and how you like to learn, we are trying to make this accessible to all those people and really put those kinds of tools in the hands of educators. It's very hard to get those kind of robust tools and resources, especially in a quick fashion in an institution that's so large.

[11:03] David Hehman:

Well, yeah, I think about the difference that a class like woodshop made or, you know, has been making, you know, for kids for generations where, you know, you have kids who maybe don't really enjoy any other classes, but really get into a woodshop project. And I worked with a great woodshop teacher when I was a middle school science teacher. and to think that we now have the opportunity to create that kind of program with electronics or you know robots and other kind of programming projects in a hands-on fashion is really exciting but i think the challenge for a lot of schools is that you know hire an innovative person is a challenge and also only a partial solution you know we might have the right person in mind to teach a class like this to run a program like this but you know the publishers the traditional publishers don't have something like this the state does not provide something like this uh you know none of our traditional curriculum resources are going to really help very much and you know this kind of class tends to be one of those things that we just kind of let kids run wild and hopefully it works out great and usually it does but

[12:10]

you know, maybe that's because we only let five kids in the class or that kind of thing, you know, when we're having to kind of figure it out as we go. So you've actually developed a curriculum and kit. And I wonder if we could talk about that, that you're making available to schools.

[12:22] David Hehman:

You know, I learned right away when we started the makerspace that if we wanted to do anything with the school, it couldn't be in addition to or on top of what they are already required to do. I mean, Teachers are tasked with a lot. It is a very difficult job. They have a lot of requirements. They have to meet every single semester. And if you try to just add some crafty projects on top of that, it's not going to work.

[12:50]

So what we're developing is something that can come right alongside what the students need to learn already. But it's augmenting that. It's helping the students retain that information. They have better test scores. I mean, the test scores in our schools, since we implemented just our STEM center, have gone up in math over 5% within a year. Actually, our discipline issues have gone down more than, I think, 20%.

[13:18]

It's just made an incredible difference. I mean, there's a lot of other things that are going on behind the scenes and with the classrooms. It's not just that, but every little thing helps. And when you have students that are engaged in the learning process And they are retaining more of that information because it's more interesting to them and it's lighten up those neurons in their brain. Then when it comes time to take the test, it's a lot easier for them to do. So we are using the ISTE standards, which is the international society for technology and education.

[13:51]

And Chris actually is in Toronto, Canada. Ryan is in New York and I'm in Georgia. So we are working together virtually. And we sell these kits all over the world. I mean, it's the China and India and Europe. I mean, it's crazy where people are ordering these kits from.

[14:09]

It's everywhere. And so that's why we kind of targeted these international standards. And then we felt like once we've got that down, then schools, whatever their state standards are or whatever federal standards they want to tie it to, it'll be easy to make that connection. But again, the whole goal is to make it easy for a school teacher and educator to bring this into the classroom and not make it something that's extra. So that means there's got to be some curriculum behind it. It means there has to be some sort of testing because, I mean, that's the thing in my class.

[14:44]

I'm constantly trying to figure out, OK, I've got to have another worksheet for them to do. So I have another grade to put in the book because they got to have so many grades of homework and so many minor grades, so many major grades, all those things. And that's something that most companies that have any kind of projects or any kind of components or anything like this, they don't think of that. They don't think that once it hits the classroom, number one, there's a teacher there that probably doesn't know anything about electronics or coding. I want to make this so turnkey that the English teacher that's never touched a wire in his or her life can look at this, watch a couple of videos that we have online, be comfortable enough to take and turn that around and has a script kind of a plan, an outline to run from, and then has the tools and the resources to provide the students so that they can do some of their own learning.

[15:39]

Another thing I try to really focus on in my class is self-directed learning. They would probably roll their eyes if they heard me say, be in charge of your own success one more time. I tell them constantly, be in charge of your own success. nobody's going to spoon feed you information or what you need in the real world. You're going to have to figure it out. And if a teacher is empowered because they know that the answers are there, that students have access to it and they can do it, then they can learn along with the student.

[16:10] David Hehman:

Well, let's talk about some of the projects that are included. I know we've touched on a few examples, but in the Mega Teacher Maker Package, what are some of the projects that kids do that you've built into that?

[16:20] David Hehman:

Our Ultimate Maker Kit has 12 different projects. So I mentioned one of my favorites is the memory game. I love that one just because I remember playing Simon as a kid and it's interactive. And even though it's four buttons and it just beeps and there's four LEDs that light up, it challenges you. And so once you're done making it, you want to get to level 10 and see if you can master the game. It's just really fun to do.

[16:45]

The optical theremin is pretty cool. So And that, uh, you know, you use a potentiometer and some light dependent resistors, also like a photo resistor. And then that way waving your hand over the sensors, it plays different sounds and you can create some music with it. The weather station is fun. Um, because you know, once you set that up, you can have that in the house where you can, you know, um, put the little sensor outside too and, and get the temperature and humidity and things like that. Oh, the audio visualizer is cool too.

[17:16]

It has a little microphone and then it has two, um, LED squares. And so when you're playing music, it jumps up and down, you know, just like your equalizer does. But you actually have to program it to each line of those LEDs has to be associated with a frequency that's being picked up by that microphone. So you are learning how to put the electronics together. You're learning how to program it. You're learning about audio waves.

[17:44]

You're learning about audio signals. You're learning about frequency ranges. So there's so much that you learn just putting that together. And it's not, you know, rote memorization and it's not a linear thing. You're going in and you're figuring it out. And the reality is you're probably going to put some wires in the wrong place.

[18:02]

You're probably going to mistype some code and you're going to end up having to do some troubleshooting. Again, it's not spoon fed to you. You have everything you need, but I think one of the things that we miss out on a lot is allowing the students to fail. I remember when I was in school, it's like I didn't want to have a bad grade on anything because it was going to affect my GPA. It could affect getting into college. It could affect all of these things.

[18:27]

But that puts us in a position that if we don't succeed at something, you know, we feel like we're a failure instead of just that we failed. And when you do a project like this, you can learn. that, you know what, you're going to mess up. You're going to make mistakes. Part of the process is figuring it out. Part of the process is coming up with your own idea, seeing if you can implement it.

[18:49]

And, you know, it may not work five or six times. So what? It doesn't matter. You can fail and you can fail and fail and fail until you become a success. And there's more value in learning that that's part of the process. and that people don't just show up on the scene and become a pop star.

[19:07]

They've been singing for 10 years. It's the 10,000 hour rule, Malcolm Gladwell, right? You don't see all the behind the scenes. You just see the success that's in front of you and you think it happened overnight. When it doesn't happen overnight for you, you feel like you can't do it. I spent a lot of my life feeling that way.

[19:23]

And when you can tackle a project and come out on the other side and feel that sense of accomplishment that you actually made something and you can share it with somebody, And then you can teach somebody else how to do it. That kind of sense of accomplishment and self-fulfillment and self-actualization, that is something that you take with you throughout life. It helps you be successful no matter what kind of situation you're in.

[19:46] David Hehman:

Yeah, that is awesome. I'm thinking about the stories we hear about high school kids, or maybe even earlier, who develop their own apps for smartphones. And we hear those stories occasionally, but I think for most kids, the idea of an app is something that you know I just fire up my phone and download it and it's just kind of a finished thing that exists and I feel like we grew up in a time when you could kind of see the wires a little bit more you know when you could kind of understand how technology worked like you could take more things apart you could you know take the screws off the back of it and kind of look at the wires and You know, I probably broke a few toys that way and never really got them to work again, but, you know, that was okay. It was all in good fun. But, you know, I feel like so much is just glued together and it's a black box and kids just expect it to work. I love that idea of building something from basic components, like literally getting a kind of a Radio Shack, you know, and Radio Shack is kind of gone now.

[20:44]

People did this when we were kids, but... you know get all the components to build things that of course we couldn't build 20 or 30 years ago because we didn't have you know arduinos and and all the cool things we have now but really to see that go from basic components disassembled in a box to something that they built themselves and that they programmed themselves that is really cool so i know people have you know if you're with us if you're listening uh this far in you probably have one of two reactions either i want this for my students or I want this for myself. I want to do this with my kids or just as a grown-up for fun on the weekend. And that was certainly my reaction when I came across it on Facebook or wherever I first came across Creation Crate and the work you guys are doing.

[21:29]

But let's talk a little bit more about the kind of leadership side of this because, again, I think this is the kind of thing that when you see it in schools. It tends to be one teacher who's better at asking for forgiveness than permission, but also, you know, good at asking for resources when they need them. Your program was a new program. And talk to me about how you kind of funded that, how you got that to actually happen. Because, you know, I know there are a lot of schools that, you know, maybe have an innovative librarian, and that librarian would really like to do more than check out books to kids, but really like to make the library or whatever their existing space is into more of a maker space, maybe just for one class or maybe as kind of an optional program, maybe an extracurricular program. How did you guys do that?

[22:15]

And what was the fundraising and building the support, building the vision and all that like?

[22:20] David Hehman:

So I'll tell you a couple of lessons from getting our makerspace off the ground initially. So the first thing was that I spent 20 years in corporate America. It's a great training ground and I learned a whole lot, but I got to a point where like, this is not what I want to do. And when I started thinking about what I really wanted to do, I thought back to like you, when I was a kid, what did I love doing? This is the kind of stuff I love doing. And you know what?

[22:44]

You start learning that kids aren't being taught a lot of these things. They don't have access to some of this stuff. Home Depot has spent millions of dollars putting out videos to teach some of the millennials. I'm not even joking. How to use a tape measure, how to hammer a nail, how to mop a floor. It's weird to me that this is going on.

[23:03]

And so once I had that vision and I started sharing it with people and me and it wasn't me by myself. I have other co-founders that help with this. Once we start sharing that vision, you start finding those people that share in that vision and they want to help you. So I'm going to say the same thing to your listeners that I tell my students, which is be in charge of your own success. You have to be creative. You have to be ambitious.

[23:29]

You have to be energetic. I mean, I went up to North Dakota. That's where my wife is from this summer. And I had a couple of these summer camps. I was actually going to help a friend of mine do something completely different with his public relations business. And somehow we stumbled into doing a summer camp for kids building a Bluetooth speaker kit.

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Next thing you know, I have chambers of commerce, economic development centers, the Job Corps, the Indian Nation. I have corporate sponsors that are all saying, we want to sponsor a class in that community because we want to be a part of the community. But we also know that those are the kind of students that we are going to need for the job that we're going to have when they get older. So they've got to learn this somewhere. And so we started just turning over rocks and trying to find out like who is really interested in this. So getting corporate sponsors, people that, you know, really have a passion for helping teach the kids these things, but also they have a need.

[24:30]

They're going to need to have people to fill the jobs that they have. One of the things I learned in the army was improvise, adapt and overcome. So if you really want to do it, You've got to catch and share a vision with people. And then you've got to just be creative and keep going after it. So we raised some money here and there and we just kept doing it. The other thing that we did is tried to pay it forward.

[24:55]

So when we did a project as an outreach to kind of promote the makerspace, I went to the United Way and said, hey, we want to make something. I bet that you have a million organizations that you're trying to serve that need something made. So they came to us and they said, we have an organization that helps handicapped people and they want a set of cornhole boards. So, okay, that's perfect. So now we went to another organization and said, look, these guys need some cornhole boards for the handicapped people that they have over there that they serve. And they said, okay, here.

[25:33]

So Lowe's actually donated all of the materials for us to make them. We got a bunch of makers. So we've got people that sew made some cornhole bags we've got makers that cut it all up put the boards together we had an event on Main Street that we participated in and we even had some kids come up and help screw everything together and then we present them the next week so it's just finding partnerships, you know, just doing good.

[25:59] David Hehman:

You know, that passion is extremely common. You know, I think we could all go out and talk to five people and say, hey, I want to do a makerspace and get kids programming and building things out of electronics components, just like we did by going to RadioShack when we were kids. And now we have augmented reality and smartphones and Facebook Messenger and all these things. Wouldn't that be cool if we could do that in our school? And everybody would say, oh, yeah, that would be cool. But good luck with that.

[26:23]

So I think the opportunity to say, well, actually, how would you like to help us make that a reality? Because the equipment is there, the technology is there, and often all we need to do is ask people in our communities to help make that happen. I think we all, you know, everybody knows somebody who knows somebody who could write a check and make that happen pretty easily. If the educator is there, if the educator has the passion, and we know kids will go for this. We know the interest is there.

[26:47] David Hehman:

And I'll tell you what, for your listeners, first of all, we do need support ourselves. I'm shouting it from the rooftops, right? I'm leading by example, I guess. And I'm saying we need help funding some of those new features and new tools. And so we're running our Indiegogo campaign right now. If your listeners want to have a subscription service delivered right to their door, they can just easily go to mycreationcrate.com.

[27:14]

So that would be mycreationcrate.com. And then it'll take you right over to the Indiegogo campaign. But also we believe in this so much that I called Chris right before I got on the call with you. And I said, what can we offer these listeners? I mean, these are the people that we're really trying to help.

[27:31]

So we have one of our ultimate maker classroom sets. It has 20 kits in it. So that'll serve 20 students, the 12 different projects. And right now on Indiegogo, it's even discounted. But we will give you a link that you can put in the description or wherever you put it on your website that will take $500 off of that classroom set for your listeners. That's how much we believe in and want to get it into the schools.

[28:01]

So if they really want to do it, shout it from the rooftops. I know you've got to get a little bit of funding in there, but we're trying to make it a little bit easier to do.

[28:10] David Hehman:

Awesome. Well, yeah, we will definitely provide a link to that. And I'm just going to put that at principalcenter.com slash maker, M-A-K-E-R. And that will take you to the Ultimate Maker Kit Classroom Edition. So you can go to principalcenter.com slash maker.

[28:25]

And then for the individual kit, I think I'm going to subscribe to that because I'm just getting excited talking with you and thinking about all those projects I want to do with my kids. So you said that's at mycreationcrate.com?

[28:36] David Hehman:

That's right. That'll take you right to the Indiegogo campaign and... I can't thank you enough, Justin. We need all the support we can get.

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We're trying to do well by doing good. I really appreciate you inviting me to talk on your show. It's been a blast.

[28:52] David Hehman:

Likewise, people can probably tell I've kind of geeked out talking to you and I've been following your videos on Facebook and seeing all the projects that you're doing with the Bluetooth speaker and thinking about, man, there are so many standards that are taught there. You know, I was, I was a middle school science teacher. We had pretty good science kits, you know, designed to help us teach our standards in a hands-on way, but nothing in the realm of electronics or augmented reality or programming. So I am just so excited to see this, seeing the light of day and getting into classrooms. So, David, thank you so much for joining me on Principal Center Radio.

[29:23] David Hehman:

Oh, you're welcome, Justin.

[29:25] David Hehman:

And now, Justin Baeder on high-performance instructional leadership. So, high-performance instructional leaders, what did you take away from my conversation with David? Boy, that was fun. You could probably tell that I really had a blast talking with David about leadership. those projects that he's doing with his students and the program that he's created in his school. And I think we both were thinking back to experiences that we had as kids, playing with electronics, getting to build things.

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And as an educator, I know that not every kid has those opportunities. Not every kid has a set of the little screwdrivers that you can use to take things apart and has the opportunity to program things and have computers and have access to all of that equipment. And I think, you know, we would all love to provide those opportunities for students if there were an easy way. And that was why I was so excited when I saw this, when I saw Creation Crate, when I saw the things that Chris and David and their team were putting out, not only for individuals, but also for schools. So if this has been a sticking point, if not having access to the materials, to the circuit boards and the components and all that, if that has been a barrier and if you have the right person, if you have someone who is raring to go with a program like this,

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I want to encourage you to check that out, to take a look at the kit that David and his team have put together. You can go to principalcenter.com slash maker and check that out. And I think what that comes with is a set of 12 projects for a group of 20 kids. And if you have a different number of kids in mind, reach out to them. I'm sure they can work with you on that.

[31:05]

But the idea that this is now ready to go, that the projects have been designed, they're not cookie cutter, they set students up for success, but you get everything you need to let students explore, to let students run with those materials and build their projects and try things and fail. I love that David talked about the opportunity to fail and how that's so important for students to develop resilience and to really figure out how they learn. I'm so excited about this. So check that out at principalcenter.com.

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